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Tom laPrade
Hello all. I am under contract for two adjoining 20 acre parcels on Indian Springs Rd., south of I-10. Land was advertised with "power on the land". I would like to come out, clear a few roads, and have electric installed further onto the property as a first step, but I read somewhere online that regulations require water/septic to be installed BEFORE power companies can legally hook up electric. Does anybody know if this is true? My goal was to live in a self-contained RV with electric power for appliances/tv, then work on the other site improvements afterward. Any info would be great! Thanks, Tom (978)870-3107 (also, does anyone have a skid steer/small dozer to rent to clear land with?)
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Randy Meador
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Howdy we're looking at purchasing 60 acres in Sierra Blanca and have read a lot of post about going to the water company to have water hauled which is good to know but I'm curious about what septic systems are being used and cost also if anyone is using compost toilets? Any help would be appreciated my email is ct_wolfpack72@yahoo.com
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Randy Meador
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Are any of y'all using solar or wind for electricity ? If so what systems or company did y'all use? And prices for systems thanks
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Carlin
Wind and solar would be great options. I spent the weekend out there last year, for 4th of July, and the wind was pretty consistent. I didn't have anything to measure wind speed with me, I will take a meter with me next time. I currently live about a 10 hour drive away, so don't get out as often as I'd like to.
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Bill and Chris
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We have 20 acres in blue quail lll how deep did you end up drilling for water, and how much did it cost? What did you figure out for your electricity, we have an electric pole on our land
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Joe Blow
Hey Bill & Chris (and anyone else interested) -

Funny you should mention wells...Im a welder and i had planned to fabricate (build) my own drilling rig after i got further along in my ranch setup. I've have designed will dig 200ft+, and in our area (hudspeth/Brewster/Presidio) the water depth is about 150 or so. Initially I planned on putting off the project and just buying water for now until im further along in my rather setup. But, if enough of you guys need/want wells to justify my fabrication cost...and willing to commit to contracts, then i can work on the drill now and go ahead dig your wells for you all.

I'm thinking if say 5-10 people here pledge to contract a well @750 ea, then that would work out for all of us. You guys get cheap well dug, and i get my drill paid for!

What do you guys think??? The going rate for well diggers is about $3-5k.
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Bill and chris
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Got up with a co-op in dell city, they will come in off our electric pole that comes with our land 150 feet and put a meter on a pole $ 0 BUT it has to be full time residence
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Bill and chris
Got up with a co-op in dell city, they will come in off our electric pole that comes with our land 150 feet and put a meter on a pole $ 0 BUT it has to be full time residence
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Bill and chris
Water is a whole nother animal I have quotes from 22$ 32$ a foot and that's not pump for well. 400 to 800 ft to water, anyone have better news?
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Debra
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I just contracted 20 acres there and plan on using a composting toilet. I found an ok for it in the covenant for Sunset Ranches it stated that a "state-approved composting toilet was acceptable" however it also stated that if you planned on getting electricity that they would require a legally installed septic system first. No electricity or septic for me ! I plan on going completely off grid and hopefully will become proficient enough with the composting toilet that I can fertilize a nice little landscape there in the desert
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Norm Henderson
Here is a website I found that provides good information regarding septic systems in Texas.http://www.tceq.texas.gov/licensing/ossf/ossfhomeowners.html

 I will be putting in my own septic system. I will use a dual chamber tank or just 2 tanks and then run leak lines out. My calculation for the leach lines or bed is based off how many gallons of water I use a day divided by the absorption rate. Example: I use 1000 gallons of water a day and the absorption rate is 2, then I need at least 500 square feet of leach area. You can find out the absorption rate of your land by digging a hole about 18 inches deep. Be sure the sides of the hole are roughed up and not packed smooth. Drop a yard stick in the hole and add at least 6 inches of water. It's important to know how many inches of water is in the hole. Wait 30 minutes and then measure how much water is left in the hole. Example: 6 inches of water in hole, wait 30 minutes, now there is 4.5 inches of water in the hole. Divide 30 by 1.5 and that is your absorption rate = 20 minutes per inch of water. I recommend doing this at several locations and averaging it for better drainage results. I know that this is not the best method but it will provide you with a pretty good idea of absorption rate.
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Norm Henderson
I forgot to say that I normally over do everything so I will be adding another 50% to any calculations I come up with for my leach. Also be sure to look at how much land slope you have and in which direction. You want the septic water to disperse equal as possible over your entire leach area. So, too much slope and the septic water all ends up at the bottom of your leach area and can cause panic soil and smell. Too little slope and you now have the same issue but closer to home. The degree of slope used will also be determined by the absorption rate. The faster the absorption, the more slope you can have. I have not done all the calculation yet since I have not started my septic but I wanted to share what I have found and what I plan to use. Also, Here is a link to the soil survey of Hudspeth County. http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_MANUSCRIPTS/texas/hudspethTX2013/Hudspeth%20Soil%20Survey.pdf Hope all this at least helps a little.
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Randy Meador
Thanks for the info. Did you have to get a permit from the county or city of Sierra Blanca? I've heard different stories on getting permits, that they don't require them because there's nobody to inspect
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Norm Henderson
When me and my wife went to the Court House in Sierra Blanca to get an address for our property is when I asked about permits. The clerk told me that she would sale me all the permits I want but no one would come and inspect. "It's your property, you do what you want." She then told me and my wife how her and her husband had just finished building their house and had got no permits. Now, this was my experience and it is not meant as guidance for others. I don't want any one to have issues because of what I was told.
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Desert Dog
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Hey Debora. Am I understanding this correctly? If we do not use public electrical grid utilities then we are allowed to use composting toilets instead of having a septic installed? This would be great because I plan on being completely off grid.
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kpenic
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Hey there future neighbor! Let me know if this well drilling enterprise works out. We are moving to our 120 acres soon and would be interested in being part of that. Thanks!
Blessings of Love & Light,
Kelley
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kpenic
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You are allowed to use composting toilets rather than a septic system. If you are going totally off grid as we are, there are ones with a hand crank for turning the waste/compost, and then some others are electric. Sun-Mar makes a good model waterless, non-electric, high-capacity composting toilet. We are going off grid (solar) and using composting toilets as well. We also have a plan to recapture and purify "gray water" (shower, dishes, laundry) for gardening use. By aging our compost from the toilet as well as kitchen waste and waste from our chickens and horses; we will be able to use all waste for our plastic-lined raised beds for growing food. In the desert; waste not, want not when it comes to water!!!
Blessings of Love & Light,
Kelley
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cookiescout1948
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Norm I was told that the only thing you had to have a permit for was the septic system & that the county does inspect them but I haven't started on anything yet. Moving out the middle of June & hoping to use water storage tanks to start. We will have composting toilets and recycle the grey water for irrigation. I can't imagine using that much water unless you have a very big family or just are extravagant with the water. I believe personally that even if I was going to use the septic system I would still try to use as much of the grey water as possible for irrigation. I should add as you did that I don't mean to lead anyone astray, do your own research & due diligence then act accordingly. Best of luck, David Mitchell.  cookiescout1948@gmail.com
tom
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tom
I had a septic system installed and it cost $3,000, but to have one installed it has to be done by a Installer certified by Hudspeth county and they do come out and inspect it.
certified installers are required for well drilling and septic tanks only everything else open to what ever you want to build
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